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Gun or chip: a timing paradox

30 Thursday Sep 2021

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There are many who relish the accuracy of chip timing, as a measure of exactly what their time was for a particular distance. Indeed, the technology that has become commonplace in competitive running is a great thing. For many purists, however, trying to compare races run “pre-chip” with those using chip timing is an undeniable mystery—very much like comparing apples and oranges. Both are fruit but very different from one another.

“gun or chip” graphic

Creek Road Runners, from its earliest days (“prehistoric” in terms of timing technology—e.g., the use of a stopwatch), has held to a standard of posting “gun times,” as opposed to “chip times” for just this reason. It is fair to compare gun times over the years, though they don’t necessarily reflect accurate time over the stated distance. Who’s to say what one’s chip time would have been in a race of tens of thousands back in the day, if it took up to a few minutes after the gun went off just to get to the starting line?

Today, nearly all race organizers/timers do what is easiest and most efficient in posting results, i.e., using chip times, which is totally understandable. However, how do race directors decide who earns awards in various competitive categories? This can be quite paradoxical.

photo of Bill Rose

Speaking of paradox, CRR Bill Rose competed in the Grape Stomper cross-country 5K this summer at Paradocx Vineyards in nearby Pennsylvania. Finishing eighth overall, Rose won his age group. The paradox involved here is that Rose’s chip time was actually faster than the competitor who finished just two seconds ahead of him and who walked away with the award for fastest men’s masters runner—a more prestigious accolade, to be sure.

Upon further inspection, there were a number of inconsistencies in how runners were ranked—most placed strictly according to chip time, and yet some weren’t, like Rose, who turned in a 23:13.

photo of Mark Deshon

CRR Mark Deshon remembers a 5K several years back, at the finish of which he was certain to have won his age group, having not seen his main rival at any point during the race. Upon checking the results board, he had placed second, not first. How might this have happened? Well, he found out that his competitor, who gladly accepted the age-group win, actually had a faster chip time but had spent too long in the Porta-Potty and had gotten to the starting line about 45 seconds after the gun had sounded.

So, this illustrates a problem with competitions, which are essentially what “races” are. One can complain about Creek Road Runners’ stance with respect to not posting the faster (i.e., chip) time in its race results articles, but we’ll argue that when the gun sounds, the official clock begins, no matter where you are in relation to the starting line—even if you’re still in the Porta-Potty!

An Olympic postscript

10 Tuesday Aug 2021

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The 2020 pandemic Olympic Games came to a close on August 8, 2021. Now we can look forward to the 2024 games in just three years!

For many, the extra year of training and preparation for these games was a hindrance; for others, it was a blessing in disguise. There were certainly a lot of surprises along the way. It seems the rest of the world is catching up with the USA in many sports.

In particular, the men’s track and field team, with a few notable exceptions, did not have the broad success that most of us expected. The USA women’s T&F team performed better, relative to their competition.

Champion gymnast Simone Biles brought a stark new awareness of the mental aspect of this level of competition, dropping out of the gymnastics team competition and a few of her individual-specialty apparatus events due to her unreadiness mentally.

photo of Sam Parsons making eye contact with an Ethiopian competitor
CRR Sam Parsons competed in the World Championships in Doha in 2019.

How difficult, both physically and mentally, it is just to get to the Olympic stage was highlighted in a pre-Olympics article in the New York Times, which focused on this subject and featured CRR Sam Parsons.

Parsons, who trains with Colo.-based Tinman Elite and was competing for a spot on the German national team in the 5,000m (his mother CRR Christina Parsons is German), had been battling a nagging injury leading up to the German trials. Unfortunately, with little more than a lap left in his quest to qualify, he had to pull out of the race—his Olympic dream deferred.

The good news, father CRR George Parsons tell us, is that his son is recovering well physically and is staying positive, despite the disappointment.

> See New York Times article

Another almost-made-it was Michaela Meyer, who won the NCAAs this year but finished fourth at the Olympic trials. Meyer was a former UD student of CRR Bill Rose.

Yes, the world does seem to be catching up to the USA in many respects. Could this be the natural evolution of globalism, or is there something behind this?

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CRR Matt Robinson

We’d like to think that the efforts of (self-proclaimed Creek Road Runners CEO) CRR Matt Robinson are making a difference for other nations that may not have the coaching expertise that we enjoy in this country. He literally coaches Olympic coaches.

This effort is funded by the International Olympic Committee’s Olympic Solidarity Fund, which designates money generated from Olympic broadcast rights to sport development and education programs around the world.

In the runup to the Olympic Games this summer, Robinson was interviewed by a University of Delaware UDaily reporter for the following article.

> Read “Going for Gold”

CRRs take on Fusion 5 Miler

05 Thursday Aug 2021

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There were several notable finishers among the Creek Road Runners who ran the Fusion 5 Miler here in Newark on July 31.

photo of Andrew Weber

CRR Andrew Weber turned in another impressive performance, winning the men’s masters division and finishing 3rd overall in a neat 30:00. Six minutes per mile at age 41 is nothing short of outstanding.

photo of Bill Rose

CRR Bill Rose won the 60-69 age group, finishing 18th overall in 34:53. Though he didn’t place in his 40-49 age group, CRR Dan Weile bested Rose on the day with a 34:09, finishing in 16th.

photo of Doug Repetti

CRR Doug Repetti continues to run well among the 70-and-overs, winning this über-seniors category in 41:55 and finishing in a very respectable 57th out of the 186 competitors.

A shout-out to CRR April Anderson, who placed 2nd in the 70-and-over age group in 1:12:26.

Well done, all of you.

Saying “bye” to 2020, with Roses

01 Friday Jan 2021

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photo of Bill RoseTwo other runners, CRR Bill Rose and his daughter Ally also made it out to Fair Hill yesterday to help close out 2020 by running the “Wring Out the Old, Ring in the New” 4.67-mile trail loop.

The elder Rose had done ten of these annual runs from 2006 to 2019. This was his 11th. This was Ally Rose’s fourth, having participated in 2015, 2017, and 2018. She missed the run last year because she was on a plane to China. Fortunately, she was back this year and really wanted to run it again, if for no other reason than to keep her dad honest!

photo of Bill and Ally RoseThey wondered if they would see other CRRs while there. They didn’t, so, in essence, it became great father-daughter time—finishing stats unimportant.

“We thought we would be running in the rain, but the rain ended just before we started,” Bill commented. “With no rain and no wind, we were overdressed for the 46-degree temperture. The uphills on this course get bigger every year. We had a very nice run, even though there were no doughnuts or sparkling cider at the finish. We look forward to seeing everyone next year!”

Rose plans to organize the 2021 run, to include the doughnuts and bubbly.

Annual Dec. 31 trail run cancelled

10 Thursday Dec 2020

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photo of Vic Kaliakin finishingCreek Road Runners’ popular annual New Year’s Eve day event—the “Wring Out the Old, Ring in the New” trail run at Fair Hill Natural Resources Management Area—has been cancelled as a prudent response to the surging coronavirus pandemic.

Event organizer CRR Bill Rose fully expects that next year we’ll be able to hold this event for the 22nd time.

In the meantime, we hope that, while awaiting an available vaccine, all of you will stay safe and healthy, especially now that you have a year and three weeks to train for next year’s run at Fair Hill.

As CRR Vic Kaliakin implies here, hats off to all you Creek Road Runners, both near and far, for a happy holiday season and a better new year in 2021!

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